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I have taught a little from my brother in the beginning.
(Which number are you?) There is no number. (Did you start by yourself?)
Yes. (What made you start it?) I was little concerned with it. The concern
was that I saw my friend's brother doing it. (Was there any person like
that?) It happened that. My friend's brother was doing it in Tokyo. I was
amazed by seeing it. So it was the natural to start this. (Did you like
to draw?) I did not dislike it. (You did not take over the family business,
right?) Right. (Did you train?) Yes. (When did you start?) Since I was about
18. I was taught a little from my friend's brother in the first place in
the country. In Nagano. I did not know anything about the world of dye,
but I started to understand in after 1 to 2 years. In the first place, I
was doing Nori Oki (Putting glue on the part where you don't want to dye).
But Nori Oki is to paint over the draft, so I began to hope painting by
my own. It is just to trace over the draft. That person was trained in Tokyo,
so I begged to and came to Tokyo. I was about 20 years old. I trained in
Nihonbashi and became independent in Itabashi. That time the highway was
still under construction, so Nihonbashi was close Nagano. And I came here.
 I
work hard till I am satisfied.
(Is this furoshiki(cloth wrapper)?) It is not a furoshiki. (A tapestry?)
Yeah, I am thinking about it now. (When does it finish?) It is about to
finish. (How do you get satisfied?) Hum.....It is the step to put some wax
on. Then I put colors in it and heat with steam. (Is the craftsman who do
the steaming is different ?) Yes. (So, is Mr. Morisawa a painter?) It is
close. In the case in Tokyo, many people come to be a painter. But since
they could not live with it, they start this so they could earn money. Many
people started this with this reason. Where do you think the end is? (This
kind of creative work do not have the end, does it?) It is right. So now
I am starting to prefer on hard jobs. I am not good at gaining money. since
I do it for many years, it is not fun to do the odd jobs. I work hard till
I am satisfied. (Wasn't there a enthusiastic customer at you exhibition?)
People who like them really like them. I have not ever done sales at the
exhibition like that. So the other people have to sale them. To say clearly,
I do not like it. I can't stand with it. In the past, when I was studying,
I went to the exhibition to find something good. But it was just like a
normal place to sale. I just always saw something like that in the world
of kimono. So I do not want the people to think like that.
I get orders or the preference of the customers.
(Do you work till break off?) If you loaf and the time passes, the color
might change. When I start, I have to finish it. (Do you work on same color
at the same time?) Yes. There is no rule to it. As working, I add colors
like this by looking around. (Do you also color the white part?) Yes. This
part that have wax on finishes in white. (This coated part is the wax?)
Yes. (Is this yellow color the wax?) The wax is scorched. (Are all your
products only one works?) I get orders or the preference of the customers,
so my works become only one. There is volume sellers and pamphlet orders,
right? They have to have the stocks as they finished printing pamphlets,
so they must use many people to do so. (Is there time that customers of
Mr.Terasawa wait for half year?) It depends on the product. I'm working
on furisode(long-sleeved kimono) knowing it is not profitable. The normal
furisode are all printed, and the manufacturers don't get those orders.
So we work for the manufacturers and provide more service. (Where does Mr.
Terasawa get profit?) On the other way around, I use for the advertisement.
A novel work I had done is a long over garment that is used at the wedding.
I get orders for those kind of things. It can be also said to furisode(long-sleeved
kimono) and they have long sleeves. So there are about 3 more compared to
the normal kimono. (The design?) Yes, the design. So I should of get paid
three times more. But now there are cheap printed ones and if I do so there
will be no orders. So I work on them for the advertisement. It is a good
advertisement since it is attractive. For over garment, there are more of
them. Now I have an order of it, and the customer say finishing can be three
years later. (Does the bride order it?) The bride's grandmother does the
order. (Is the bride going to marry?) She is still about 6 years old. It's
true(laugh). (Is it too late after the wedding is settled?) Yes, it is impossible.
So sometimes artist suddenly order, and that is most troublesome. (How much
does that grandmother pay?) Probably about a few million hundred thousand
yen. (What does the grandmother's daughter say?) She does not have any interest
because it is about the future. But the grandmother accepts my works and
want to order before her sight gets poor! She likes the kimono. So it's
like she has to leave it. (Do many people rent the over garment now?) Though
you walk around to look for it, they are also expensive and all printed.
There are no good products anymore like in the past. (The chest makers told
that to make with machine is also pretty expensive...) Yes, it is not so
cheap. (Is it so since they are fully worked-out to sale?) Yes.
It is how delicately finished.
Even for us, making over garment is a few times in the lifetime. Those works
are not for profit. (You get absorbed?) Yes I really get into it. The present
style of business just care on the appearances.I have contacts with the
manufacturers for many years, but nowadays, I can only do the work which
just look good. I don't have to finish to the end. It's only the work which
has good appearance and leaps. By finishing neatly to the end like we did
in the past, it is possible to produce products which do not get weary and
have attraction. It is how delicately finished. In the past, many kimono
were worn and washed. Some parts fade away and people come to us to fix
it. We return with putting colors and the customers never think that the
colors faded. The paints, gold, and those kinds that we put in the end fade
out by washing. But people in the past bring in to the craftsman who drew.
Then it turns new again. Nobody does that anymore. Many people think it
is not good to wash kimono now. It is the business of superficial. When
the students who come for the lesson finish neatly, their paintings get
superb. You can see it over there. Since they don't have any experience,
they don't understand though I said "it's great". This solidity is good,
isn't it? Now, everybody advertises and the date of delivery hastens. They
all want to make profit as soon as possible, so they skip the crafters and
some progress. So kimono shops use gold since the kimono look gorgeous and
easy to deceive. (Is it possible to earn money?) Yes. For this kind of job,
since the craftsmen get attracted for the works, they do the works which
are attracting and the other drawings get the best of it. Not many people
do this kind of job. (Is this the work of a student?) Yes. Even the students
who come for the lesson to me can make these in 4 months. Nobody would believe
in this. This one right here is doing the amount of one kimono. Look at
this. You can have the both front and backside of obi(belt form kimono).
They are great. (Is it possible to make a big thing, if they put their mind
to it?) They don't have confidence. The experience or the mental parts do
not get along with contents. Even if they make good stuff, they cannot examine
good or bad with any experience. They get confidence even if the works are
fine. So everybody is worried while making own works. Some is shading of
green leaf, but it is not possible to be done as imagined. It is same for
everybody, isn't it? But you feel that the works by the other people are
better. (Can you feel it from your experience?) Yes. (Do the pupils come
other than the students?) They are all outside apprentice now. (What is
outside apprentice?) They learned here and do the work outside.
 I
make a lot of sketch.
(Is you design an impromptu idea?) No, I make a lot of sketch. (Where is
this design?) It is near Kyoto. Around Sagano. I go with my friends. (Do
you go to Gion(the name of the place in Kyoto where is the many entertaining
show restaurants are gathered) on the way back?) No, we don't play around.
(Is there design for the particular age?) This one is monotone, and does
not have many stocks left. The body looks firm. (But it is so gaudy!) It
is pretty neat. In the past, we copied the designs of the master and then
break them. The people who learn from the teacher don't make sketches by
themselves. So not all the craftsmen who paint kimono can draw landscapes.
The people in Tokyo want the products which are not at the store.
(Is the beauty of Japanese clothes light and delicate colors?) Yes. (Does
Japan have a lot of colors?) In the case of Tokyo, the kimono shops and
department stores have stuff from Kyoto and producing centers and have many
colors, don't they? So some customers demand detailed design and colors.
Even the basic colors. It is impossible to add detailed style and wabi(the
beauty to be found in simplicity) at producing centers. The customers in
Tokyo wear a lot and demand detailed design and basic colors. They make
the products targeting on those customers. So they became stylish and wabi.
(Is kimono from Kansai ready-made?) It is difficult since it is the division
of work. We image after getting orders and progress the works. So it can
be finished as the customer wanted. In Kyoto, there are many wholesale dealers
and each have their own originality as tradition. But the people in Tokyo
want the products which are not at the store. But they don't often wear
them anymore so it is like leisure business for us now. So I don't want
do the odd jobs. Everybody who orders now is lucky.
I am examining about Bali right now.
This is Bali. (How exotic!) I am examining about Bali right now. (Even the
Bali music?) No, they have dying. (Batic?) Yes. There are many ways to do
so, and I have been doing it for about 10 years. This is not still completed,
but to dye ground color like this, this many colors are used. So the amount
of glue strewing must be an average, and it would never much. (Why do you
use Batic of Bali?) Chinese use embroidery for design, right? And American
Indians and Ainu of Japan traditionally use textiles. Italy and France print
to put colors. And Bali have silk but mainly cotton and start from white
fabrics for design. Also Japan starts from white fabrics, right? There were
similarities, and I drew the design. (Do you put the glue on these tiny
designs with the tip of the brush?) Yes. (Is the gluing at the end?) Yes.
(How long does it take?) A few months. (Do you need patience for this job?)
Yeah, you need it for this. The crafters who cannot draw by yourself order
at the local spot. Then, the design and the colors would be the local style.
But since I'm the one who makes it, I absorb the great but discontinuing
parts like in Japan. I order the design but put colors by myself. But the
craftsmen in Japan divide order for gluing. But I am challenging on it now.
I had problems with the language and has been 11 years since I started.
This year the works of Batic is starting to store. |
